Sunday, 2 November 2014
Thursday, 21 August 2014
We spoke to director Eddie Martin at this year’s Sheffield Doc/Fest about his new film All This Mayhem, the story of world champion skaters Tas and Ben Pappas, currently on limited theatrical release in the UK.
Seeing as you knew the guys in the film, did you have trouble broaching certain subjects? For instance, you don’t push too far into Ben’s girlfriend’s death and the stories around that. Did you feel it wasn’t necessary to talk in any more detail?
Well, not in the 90 minute film. Obviously their story is so huge, at the end of the day that is what happened, regardless of the details. Literally there are so many details to that story that you could make a 13 episode type show with it, but to condense it into a 90 minute structure, we couldn’t afford to go into every minute detail.
What amount of raw footage did you end up with?
With Tas we did a couple of interviews, I think we did three or four in the end, but with everyone else we pretty much did just the one interview. But it did take time working with Tas, talking about particular subjects obviously was sensitive. As a doco maker, I’m just really cautious about being careful and respectful of the sensitivities of his story, and before we took the film out we showed him a rough cut, just so there were no nasty surprises in there. Not that anything was censored through that.
Some people would say that it helps to be the outside, external observer, but do you think the fact you did know them allowed you to make this film that you might not have been able to make otherwise?
Definitely. Subcultures are a very closed shop, and they don’t let in strangers. So that was one advantage I had – I knew the players, I’d been involved in that world, so it wasn’t like I had to break into a scene. But obviously it took a lot of time to work with Tas and get the trust, for him to be able to tell the story in a...what’s the word I’m looking for? A cinematic way? I don’t know if that’s correct. Really it was about him being able to open up in front of the camera, and be honest, just searching for the truth and getting him to be able to open up on screen.
Being this sort of observer – how do you think skating has changed since the 1980s?
Well, obviously there’s this street shift from vert ramps, but I don’t know if it has really changed all that much. There’s this commercial element, but you could argue that in the 80s it was huge as well and there was a commercial element as well. It just seems to go in cycles, and I think we’ve just come back around to another cycle where it is quite big and commercial. It is definitely a lot broader. When we were young, skateboarding was like an American culture and it was very foreign to our parents. They couldn’t understand what we were doing. Now I think it’s a bit more digestible for the broader public. That’s probably the big difference – you’re not such an outsider freak if you ride a skateboard.
What are your distribution hopes for the film?
What are your distribution hopes for the film?
We’re focussed on our global digital release, but we have been fortunate and do have distribution deals in place where we’ll get theatrical runs in the UK, in the States and in Australia. That’s very exciting, especially for a little documentary to get that opportunity. As a filmmaker, you just hope that your work will get seen by as many people as possible.
The big kind of message that I want to relay is that a non-skater can enjoy this story, and there’s more to it. You don’t have to be a skateboarder. It is the story of two brothers; it is a story about redemption and addiction, and brotherhood. There are lots of layers in there.
You’ve just done my work for me!
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Wednesday, 20 August 2014
We spoke with former world champion skater Tas Pappas, who came to Sheffield Doc/Fest to present Eddie Martin’s film All This Mayhem, which chronicles the rise and tragic fall of Tas and his brother Ben. All This Mayhem is currently on limited cinema release.
The first thing we want to know is, have you got back in touch with your kids?
Is there any progress?
No, she’s [his ex-wife] just cut me completely.
When was the last time you saw them?
Seven years ago. Painful, very painful.
Since you started, how do you think the cultural importance of skateboarding has changed?
Well, when I grew up you got bashed for being a skater, and now there’re skateboard toys at McDonald’s. It’s a lot safer to be a skateboarder these days!
In terms of your background, you describe yourself as a ‘bogan’ [Australian slang term vaguely comparable to ‘chav’ in the UK]. Do you think that these sports are often an escape for people from such backgrounds?
It’s an escape for anyone. Even rich kids, you know, can escape from their rich problems.
Eddie Martin (Director): Definitely. We were all outcasts as kids, we weren’t the kids who wanted to play football or whatever. And a lot of us did come from broken homes, didn’t we? Don’t know why…
Obviously you talk in the film about the drinking and the drugs and everything. Physically, today, how are you? Are you suffering at all?
My metal rod in the leg causes pain in my hip. The main thing is that I suffer from mental illness, borderline personality disorder. The meds didn’t work before, but I prayed and God’s been good to me and they’re working. Low dose of Seroquel and Lexapro. It’s gotten me to a point where I can back down if I’m starting to flip out, and not fly off the handle and screw everything up.
In the film, one person says ‘skateboarding’s fucking fucked nowadays’. How do you feel about that statement?
I know exactly what he meant. It means it’s gone too corporate. Skateboard competitions…you’d win an Am series and then you’d make it to the Pro series and you’d have a points system, right? That was when I was there. Then ESPN came in and just started making it invite, no points system, and now there’s no more earning your way through, it’s just whether or not you’re on the good side of people at ESPN and Tony Hawk whether you get the mass world media, to get a full career out of it.
Do you agree with this idea that skaters like Tony Hawk and his team ‘selling out’ has ruined the perception of skateboarding?
Look, at the end of the day they’re amazing skateboarders. All his mates, Boom Boom and all that, they’re amazing skateboarders, but we had it set up at one point to where we were going to have a union and we were going to boycott on the day and we would have had it in our court. It would have been a points system and would have been set up like pro football, the way you get paid as proper pro athletes, but it just so weirdly happened that all the friends of Tony went scab on the day and ESPN told the rest of us ‘you won’t get your thousand bucks for turning up if you don’t get into line, we’ll just fly in some shitkickers’. That put our union to rest and ever since then it’s been like whoever’s friends with Tony is the one who’s going to blow up in X Games and I just think that’s wrong, that’s not fair.
Do you think there is a kind of snobbery against skateboarders, against skateboarding?
Oh, of course there is, but just like any progressive, modern sport, people don’t really understand it until they see it. Skateboarding to me is the best sport in the world.
At the end of the film we see you doing the pay-by-the-day competitions, to keep supporting your family. Are you still doing that?
Well, right now I work on high rise buildings, abseiling, cleaning windows, then I skate on the weekend. I just got the 900 on Anzac day, so I was pretty happy with that.
The whole reason I did the doco…that skateboarding period was just one period that I got dirty on. It jaded me and Ben just how political and unfair it became. One thing led to another, drugs kicked in, and now I’m just using this as a platform to reach out to youth who are going down the wrong path, and for my kids in America to see this and find me one day.
Basically the doco’s a life story, just set in skateboarding. All that skateboarding past, you asked about it, I’m just telling you what happened, it’s not what it’s about. It’s basically a story of life. If you turn to God and do the right thing, you know…He helped me, man.
How hard was it for you going back through this again?
Obviously when you talk about what happened to Ben…
It kills me, man.
In terms of the filming, did it take a long time to discuss it, to talk through it?
Oh yeah, yeah. Me and Eddie…he knew he had to build the trust, and he did. I had a lot of moments where it was really hard. When I first got out of jail I wasn’t on meds yet so I was in full snap mode, because of my mental illness, so I was pretty hard to deal with. But he fully understood, because he’s dug up the story and he’s worked out that a lot of the way we were painted just wasn’t fair. He’s done a really good job of finding out the truth.
Is there a point when you have to stop skating? Where you have to give up? I’ve just watched you skating there [at Sheffield’s House skate park] and you’re still going and don’t look ready to give it up, but is there a point when you think you’ll have to?
The point is when you can’t afford knee surgeries or can’t afford hip replacements.
So you said you’ve got a metal rod in the hip…
Metal rod in the right femur, broke my back twice, ligaments are torn in both knees, bone on bone in my left knee. As soon as it gets too painful to move that’s, I suppose, when I can’t smash myself. Abseiling off buildings in good because you’re sitting in a seat, you’re hanging, so I rest my knees all day. Then I can skate at night.
Talking to you now it seems like you’ve recovered well from what happened to you. What are you going to tell your children about your past?
I’ll be dead set honest with them. I was a nightmare, I was hard to live with. I understand why your mum left me, I just don’t agree with cutting me off completely. I’ve paid the ultimate price for being a drugged-out psycho, you know. I lost my family. I had underlying issues why I was that way, but I didn’t know it yet. I didn’t know I needed help. Colleen knows that, but her mum basically said ‘you have to cut him completely or you can’t live with me’…and I understand it, because once they found out what happened with Ben and Lynette, they must have been thinking that’s what I was going to do, or something. I understand it, but it’s still too hard to cop. I haven’t seen my babies in seven years, man. It’s bloody painful, I’d wish it on no-one.
In the film we see you going back to Prahran, the skate park where it all started. Do you still do this?
Yeah, I skate Prahran all the time! It’s crazy.
How do the other skaters there regard you?
Oh, I’m mates with them all. It’s all good. Small scene. All the guys I work with on the buildings are all street skaters, they skate Lincoln Square.
As we’re in Sheffield, your thoughts on the House skate park?
I like it, it’s fun! It’s cool. I’m a vert skater, and there’s a lot of coping and stuff, my kind of street.
I’ve never been able to get over the fear standing on the lip of a ramp, I’m too much of a pussy…what does it feel like doing a 900?
Ah man, it just felt…honestly the one I just made felt like a backside grab 540. But I just spun extra hard, just whipped it in last minute. I was just tripping, man. I was thankful, thank you Jesus. Blessing after blessing, thank you Lord.
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Friday, 4 July 2014
While Fohn was enjoying her, what had become, habitual lie-in, early bird Martin headed off to catch Les Plages d’Agnès (The Beaches of Agnes), the final film shown in the Agnès Varda retrospective. Delightful and moving as ever, we were only disappointed that Varda herself was not in attendance.
Tuesday’s morning proved to be a very French one as we moved from Les Plages d’Agnès to La Cour de Babel (School of Babel), Julie Bertuccelli’s year in the life of a class for young immigrants in Paris. While the setup (a year in the life of a small class with a dynamic teacher) invites comparisons with Nicolas Philibert’s Etre et Avoir, Bertuccelli manages to tap into a universality that makes even the most ordinary of moments potentially heartbreaking or breathtaking. A triumph!
On a high, we then settled in for An Honest Liar - a look at the life of magician-turned-debunker “The Amazing Randi”, who wowed audiences for decades with Houdini-style tricks, before making it his life’s mission to expose psychics, illusionist, magicians and any other tricksters using their powers for evil - or monetary gain. There’s enough here to engage you for 90 minutes, but in comparison to all the films we had seen at Doc/Fest up to that point, An Honest Liar came up a little short. We respect the fact that Randi is an “honest liar”, but a little more captivating “honest lying” and a little less Uri Geller and his well-documented spoon-bending ways would have been nice.
We ended the evening at Dogwoof’s “Guilty Pleasures” night - one of the many events staged by the festival organisers. We were out and about at a few of them, but this was, undoubtedly, the best of the bunch.
On our final day of the festival we caught up with Julie Bertuccelli to discuss School of Babel (our interview will appear here in the near future!), and we, obviously, watched a couple of films.
First up it was the BBC-produced The Girl Who Talked to Dolphins – an interesting doc which recalled 2011’s Project Nim. Unfortunately somewhat limited in scope - difficult to avoid in an hour-long made-for-TV doc - it is nevertheless a well put-together film looking at an extraordinary story. Extra points for Jeff Bridges’s contribution, and for the infectious enthusiasm of the commissioning editor.
Finally, it was all about The Dog. The story behind and beyond Dog Day Afternoon, this doc is barmy, baffling and often hilarious. Moments of acute pathos pepper this rich concoction, so unbelievable that it must be (mostly) true. Recounted by the man himself, the sort of force-of-nature character who keeps your eyes glued to the screen, even when you know that everything he says needs to be taken with a wheelbarrow of salt. The director and producer offered some wonderful anecdotes from their ten-year journey to bring this to the screen, and expressed their joy at finding such a subject, at being able to tell these stories. A fitting end to the festival, rounding off another excellent year of docs. We might have missed Scorsese, and the range of screenings organised out in Derbyshire, but we had an amazing time all the same!
MP & FG
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Thursday, 3 July 2014
Another year, another Sheffield Doc/Fest, and we cats were back in town to chow down, party and, most importantly, watch a few good docs.
After a Pulp opening the night before, we opted for a lie-in the following day before rearing our ugly morning heads for our first doc of the festival, Going to the Dogs.
Directed by Penny Woolcock - with a little help from some familiar friends - Going to the Dogs explores the blood sport of dog fighting as well as a man’s relationship with his dog. Featuring ring leaders, historians, pheasant hunters and the filmmakers themselves, Dogs is a highly engaging, informative and often funny deconstruction of a world that we knew little about. It may not be everyone’s cup of the tea, but it made us sit up and think before passing judgement.
Following 2012 festival-closer Bones Brigade, this year’s skating doc All This Mayhem painted an altogether darker picture of the sport. In this tale of Tas and Ben Pappas - self-confessed 'bogan' brothers from Melbourne who rose to become world champions - the glorious rise is depicted as being indivisible from the agonising fall. Tas and the director were present at the festival, and Martin spoke to them about bringing this dark, personal story to the screen.
We finished day one on a secret note, more on which anon. Suffice to say, we have a whole new iTunes shopping list!
Monday started with the aerial spectacle Born to Fly. Following Elizabeth Streb’s dance troupe from its work “lab” in New York to its Olympic show in London, Born to Fly made Fohn, for about 82 minutes, want to step away from the ol’ Fohnhouse and become one of Streb’s “action heroes”!While Fohn was off enjoying the “pop action” in the above documentary, and catching the charming festival opener Happiness - about a little boy who’s sent to the local monastery - Martin was off interviewing Charlie Lyne, about his debut feature Beyond Clueless, after which, he headed back into the dark for Derby Crazy Love: a short but engaging introduction to the oestrogen-charged sport of roller derby. While not a work of great depth, directors Maya Gallus and Justine Pimlott offer up a thoughtful and enjoyable glimpse at a sport fast becoming part of the mainstream. Given some of the subjects' responses, it appears that this might well represent a fossilised glimpse at the unspoilt, sponsorship-free glory days of the sport.
Fohn's final solo outing of the days was to catch Dogwoof’s 112 Weddings, in which director Doug Black revisits couples from the 112 weddings he has shot over the years (because filmmaking doesn’t make us all millionaires!). Funny, poignant and a great idea, 112 Weddings was Fohn’s favourite film of the day. She thinks. It had generally been a great day for documentaries.
Our last film of the day was The 50 Year Argument - an interesting retrospective on the last fifty years of the New York Review of Books, filled with informative interviews. A celebratory sift through a star-studded archive, but nothing groundbreaking. It could have done with the inclusion of an element of print versus online, such as enlivened Page One back in the day. At Saturday's premiere screening, Scorsese himself popped up via Skype, but we cats were either on a bus journeying up to doc mecca, or catching up on sleep. You snooze, you lose!
Stay tuned for part two.
FG & MP
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Monday, 30 June 2014
We sat down in Sheffield Doc/Fest’s Big Yellow Bus to speak with Charlie Lyne, director and writer of Beyond Clueless.
In the end credits, you mention Not Another Teen Movie as an inspiration for this whole project – I really like this film…
As all right-minded people do! I organised this teen movie film festival at a cinema in Hackney, and eventually we dug up the original premiere print of Not Another Teen Movie. I think it holds up perfectly. We did get a review in Time Out where someone said that we were showing everything from the sublime (Election) to the unspeakably awful (Not Another Teen Movie). Clearly it’s still an acquired taste…
In its way, like your film, Not Another Teen Movie is a sort of coalescence of what a teen movie is.
You’re absolutely right. I honestly think the closest thing to my film, before my film existed, was absolutely Not Another Teen Movie: this film that completely tore apart the teen genre but also clearly had huge affection for it. We wanted that balance of affection and criticism. If our film could be half as good, I would be very pleased…which in many people’s eyes is not a high bar to reach for! ‘I want to be half as good as one of the worst reviewed movies of the last fifteen years!’
You are a critic yourself – what was it that spurred you on to make a film, and was this a difficult transition?
Well, it originally started around the time that I was putting on that festival, so I was rewatching a lot of those teen movies that I had loved as a teenager. I knew I wanted to do something about them, some work of criticism around them. I realised how dangerous it was walking the line between analysing this genre and taking the piss out of it. I was thinking, how can I display my ample affection for this genre while analysing it? The best way to do that seemed to be to put forward what is, in effect, a teen movie, as well as a work of criticism. It felt quite organic, but of course there was a lot of to-ing and fro-ing and fucking up in that organic process!
Could you outline how you went about funding the film?
I feel ridiculously spoilt getting to say this, given the funding horror stories you hear at a documentary festival, but as this idea was coming together, Kickstarter launched in the UK. Within half a month we had our project up, and a month later we had the funding. It was ridiculously smooth as a process, but I think we were lucky that we were tackling a subject that people have a real connection to already. I had no background as a filmmaker. It would have probably been very hard to convince people were it not for the fact that we could say, ‘you already have a connection to this material’. At the end of the day we were just very lucky that people were into it.
Did your position as a well-known critic help?
Undoubtedly. People always say about Kickstarter, the second you’re over that hump, the first 10% or whatever, then it’s much more smooth sailing. Had I not had Twitter and everything like that, and people who’d read my work and liked it, and the same with Summer Camp who did the score, if they hadn’t had the Twitter following that we could use to push the project, I don’t know what would have happened. That people were willing to trust that just because they liked my writing they might also like the film was very flattering.
The choice of clips was quite surprising to me – it often seems like you are analysing horror films and their process.
The funny thing is that everyone has their own specific thing that they don’t think is a teen movie, and no-one seems to agree on what that is – we had a very basic rule of thumb, which was ‘is it about the process of adolescence? Is it about the sense of growing up?’. So sometimes that would mean films like Mean Girls, which are unequivocally teen movies, and sometimes that would be something like Jeepers Creepers or Bubble Boy, which people are more reluctant to think of as teen movies, even though they are about teenagers in these processes of transformation.
You know what, I’ll concede that The Dreamers is a borderline case, but it gets at a sense of adolescent discovery, so I felt justified in putting it in there. We knew we’d upset some people with some of the choices, for sure, but you would be missing such a vast part of it to not include them.
I loved the moment when the title appeared over a shot from Ginger Snaps…
Well, if you’ve not seen Ginger Snaps, and Ginger Snaps Back and Ginger Snaps Unleashed…they’re incredible! One of the main things I love about teen movies – and this reoccurs again and again in the film, hopefully – is that sense of these frothy things actually getting at much bigger issues. Teen horror, especially, is a goldmine for that sort of stuff.
You don’t have a clip from Heathers, but you do have Happy Campers…
We had that dilemma going in as to how wide an area to cover, historically. I didn’t want to set up any hard-and-fast rules, but we did want to stick within a certain period, just so that it wasn’t jarring to suddenly go between Clueless and Rebel Without A Cause. The earliest film that we did use in the end was ’93, I think. It’s no comment on Heathers, which I love!
Apart from anything else, these were all the teen movies that I grew up with, the ones I feel close to. There is already a glut of writing and analysis of John Hughes movies, and we wanted to tackle something a bit less analysed.
What about the narration – how did you get Fairuza Balk involved?
We realised, because we had so little money, that we were going to have to pretty much make the film, and then take it to people and say ‘what do you think of this, would you like to be involved?’. It wouldn’t have been practical to get anyone involved from the beginning. Obviously, with the kind of film we were making, we had the luxury of doing that. All through this process that was about ten, eleven months, we’d had this list pinned up on my wall, our narration dream choices. Number one was, absolutely, Fairuza Balk. I remember the day that someone suggested that, and thinking ‘oh my god, that’s perfect!’. I don’t know if it was the best idea having her pinned up there for months, because we started to hear the film in her voice. We were just really fortunate that she said yes!
Her voice is idiosyncratic, maybe not what we immediately think of as the voice of teen movies. It’s not Molly Ringwald…
She has that brilliant duality of feeling completely at home in that world, but also feeling like a bit of an outsider. We wanted that sense that we were absolutely inside this world, being shown around by someone who’s part of it, not a distant observer, and yet someone who has that sardonic edge that her voice conjures.
What about your collaboration with Summer Camp?
That was literally the first thing, when the film felt real to me. I’d been a massive fan for years, so I was already giddy at the idea of even pitching it to them. They are very Americana-influenced, and their first album has explicit references to teen movies. So I knew it would be not a million miles from their sensibility, but it was really fortunate that they were totally up for it. They were there from day one. They were creating music even before we had anything cut. They were writers and editors and directors as much as they were composers.
As a critic, having made this film, where do you think the teen movie stands now?
It’s something we consciously chose not to talk about in the film itself, because we wanted it to be about the world, not the money or the business or the history of it. Towards the end of the movie, there’s that section on Spiderman, which to me is emblematic of what happened with the teen movie around that time. Something like Transformers would have been unimaginable ten years prior, because a big tent-pole action movie would have had a man in it, not Shia Laboeuf, a teenager who makes jokes about wanking in the middle of these big set-piece monster scenes.
These movies became so huge that there wasn’t really room for teen movies around them. Then when that fell out of favour there was this down period without any teen movies. Now I feel like it’s coming back, a new wave is coming through. A good litmus test for whether the teen genre is in good health is whether adults are getting upset about it. When Project X came out, when there were all those outraged articles about that movie, I thought ‘oh good! This has made 100 million dollars because teenagers have actually gone and seen it’, as opposed to these so-called ‘return of the teen movie’ films where all the adults go and remember how great their youth was. I just though ‘yeah! Teens are getting their own genre again!’.
Would there be any advice you would give to somebody who wanted to follow your footsteps and make their own film?
In a pragmatic sense, Kickstarter is completely brilliant, if you have an idea that is strong enough that people will be interested in it, regardless of who you are or what you’ve done. Obviously it depends if it’s a movie that can be made on as small a budget as ours has been. This is a movie that could barely have existed ten years ago – there are new worlds opening up every moment. This kind of movie is everywhere – but normally they’re on YouTube and people are just calling them ‘supercuts’ or whatever, and not thinking of them as actual artistic creations. There’s a whole wide world of people making films like this, and they need to stand up for what they’ve made and not think of it as a throwaway thing.
If you feel like you can answer this question, do you have a favourite teen movie?
I feel like everyone’s favourite teen movie is not the best teen movie; it’s the one that, for some odd reason, they cottoned on to when they were at that perfect, impressionable age. If our film gets anything, it’s the idea that those films stay with you, but they come to mean very different things as you mature and turn into a different person. The one for me is, as you may have guessed from watching the film, Eurotrip. It just meant a very specific thing to me when I was 15, and it means a very specific thing to me now, and between the two it has meant the world. I think I will always cherish it, even though, like Not Another Teen Movie, people malign it unfairly!
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Tuesday, 10 June 2014
Sheffield Doc/Fest began on Saturday with the return of local legends Pulp, gathered to present Florian Habicht's doc Pulp: A Film about Life, Death and Supermarkets.
This opening, taking place at Sheffield's City Hall, was a joyous occasion, full of local wit. Idiosyncratic national treasure frontman Jarvis Cocker entertained public and press outside with his dry humour, with extra atmosphere provided by the acapella choir.
While the film itself was not as in-depth as we would have liked, the event was still a touching celebration of both the power of documentary - with the well-chosen archive footage accurately capturing the passion and beauty of Pulp's era - and Sheffield, this medium-sized Northern city which produced such magic. An impressive opening, with a parallel screening also going on in last year's hot spot, the Devil's Arse in Castleton.
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